Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:27 am Post subject: ransom for all
“For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior; who will have (unconditionally) ALL MEN to be saved (from the original Adamic curse), and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; who gave himself a ransom FOR ALL, to be testified in due time.” (1 Tim 2:3-6)
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:07 am Post subject: Re: ransom for all
joyful wrote:
“For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior; who will have (unconditionally) ALL MEN to be saved (from the original Adamic curse), and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; who gave himself a ransom FOR ALL, to be testified in due time.” (1 Tim 2:3-6)
Hi Joyfull,
I know you want the truth,
so, told to me please,
where do you know it is unconditionally ?
You told us that you follow Jesus , so ,please tell us if "repent" means a condition or not ?
Matthew 4:
17. From that time on Jesus began to preach, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is near."
Because God is Just and He will make sure everyone gets fair chance. It is so simple.
May be I understand with dificulty,
I know God is Just and He will assure that everyone will get a fair chance....
But can anyone benefit by this chance without obeing God , His Christ and God's commandaments ?
Inspired words :
John 3:36. Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him."
John 15:50. I know that his command leads to eternal life. So whatever I say is just what the Father has told me to say."
So , does the "fair chanse" is available also for those who wilingly oposes to His command ?
Jesus also said :
Matthew 12:
31. And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.
32. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.
Joyfull , may those speaking against the Holly Spirit benefit by ransom unconditionally ?
Joyfull , don't answer in harry ! Firstly think to it !
this is not difficult question you are asking. You are only making it difficult.
I reason Bible within context. God is Just and Fair. He is not evil dictator. He will make sure everyone gets fair chance. Do you believe in in hell fire?
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