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joyful
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 Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 4:38 pm Post subject: "love" |
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Christianity is all about love; love for YHWH and Jesus and love for each other.
It is very clear that there are huge differences in understanding love for God and everyone around us.
I just left the forum I thought I could express all my opinions and love for God and each other. Boy, was I wrong, the minute they found out my faith and opinions are different from them, they got all in an uproar. I was welcomed by them at beggning because they thought I was exactly like them in their faith and practice. I thought I could express my faith without being threatened with banned.
That's the kind of practice is going on in the organized religion including JW. That's the main reason why I dont belong to any organized churches.
This forum I just left, they are saying that they are not part of "religion" but they dont realize they are practicing what they say they don't like.
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joyful
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| Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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Practicing God's love is not as easy as christian community are trying to convey to everyone. For instance, if we just say things just give them comfort and ticles their ears so they don't have to change their life styles and mentality they are actually hating God. Jesus followers supposed to encourage everyone to obey YHWH and Jesus' commands and teachings.
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joyful
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We are also working against God when we are being enablers for lukewarm faith. There are tons of being enablers; in a nut shell, Christian communities are being one by giving them false assurance of lukewarm faith of most Christians. YHWH hates lukewarm faith and so does Jesus, of course.
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joyful
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It seems that they are being loving if they can be vague and give people hint what they want to say when they are opposing their oppsers. Often times they are misleading and sending mixed meassges when they are ambigueus. It is unloving and unkind in my opinion. Beating around the bush happens when they are being vague and that's what is going on in the Christian discussions. When they cannot make their point across they finally get to the point. When people want to know exactly what they are saying they accuse enquirer they are being unloving. Beating around the bush is not a tactful talk. It is just dishonest. BTW, honesty does not mean being rude. Rudenss and honesty is completey different. Christians should know the difference.
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joyful
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christianity's love is mainly about loving God and Jesus. Jesus says if we love Him keep His commandments.
It seems that most churchgoers' love is that if you don't offend anyone you are being loving. Most Jesus' commandments are offensive if we don't love Jesus. Jesus also says narrow the road that leads to life and only a few find it.
Let's not confuse Jesus' love with worldly concept of love.
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joyful
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If you're willing to allow your dear friends to be deceived, then you don't really love but in fact, you hate them:
Prov. 27:5 Open rebuke [is] better than secret love.
27:6 Faithful [are] the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy [are] deceitful.
Rev. 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
I tried to change those words, but it seems God forbade me, for it was called for:
Matt. 22:18 But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, Why tempt ye me, [ye] hypocrites?
Matt. 23:24 [Ye] blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
23:25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.
Matt. 23:19 [Ye] fools and blind: for whether [is] greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?
Luke 24:25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
How do the apostles teach us?
James 4:4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
Titus 2:15 These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.
2 Tim. 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
1 Tim. 5:20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.
Titus 1:12 One of themselves, [even] a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians [are] alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies.
1:13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;
Rebuke when rebuke is called for is a sign of love, but failure to do so is a sign of hate!
Lev. 19:17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.
And hate is murder.
1 John 3:15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
Ez. 3:18 When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked [man] shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
3:19 Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.
3:20 Again, When a righteous [man] doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumblingblock before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
You guys have no excuse for the ignorance you've shown here. I always pray for you that you'll show a little spark of intelligence and wisdom.
Psalms 19:7 The law of the LORD [is] perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD [is] sure, making wise the simple.
But I'm sad because in this scorn I see a lack of wisdom:
Prov. 9:8 Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee
Ps; I picked this from another forum. It is excellent reminder for Christians who criticize others for not "loving" |
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Viperlord
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| Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 12:49 am Post subject: |
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| joyful wrote: |
It seems that they are being loving if they can be vague and give people hint what they want to say when they are opposing their oppsers. Often times they are misleading and sending mixed meassges when they are ambigueus. It is unloving and unkind in my opinion. Beating around the bush happens when they are being vague and that's what is going on in the Christian discussions. When they cannot make their point across they finally get to the point. When people want to know exactly what they are saying they accuse enquirer they are being unloving. Beating around the bush is not a tactful talk. It is just dishonest. BTW, honesty does not mean being rude. Rudenss and honesty is completey different. Christians should know the difference.
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That's it exactly. You're being loving - or at least nice - if you're abstract about it and keep the mood pleasant. Believe it or not, some people learn best that way. I'm not saying that you're being unloving - but it's like going to Japan and speaking German.
To get to the point... different people need to be treated differently, and you've treated some people in a way that they couldn't accept being treated. It has nothing to do with their character, it's more like a different culture.
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thanks for your input vipor.  |
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