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the Mad JW



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:16 pm    Post subject: "You MUST worship with Spirit...and TRUTH!" Reply with quote

Greetings from the Mad JW!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello mike Very Happy welcome again Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please explain what means the proposition you quoted :
"You MUST worship with Spirit...and TRUTH!"

Respectfully , r.v.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rus virgil wrote:
Please explain what means the proposition you quoted :
"You MUST worship with Spirit...and TRUTH!"

Respectfully , r.v.


Greetings, RV!

Was quoting John 4:23-But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

24-God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Ignored by the majority of 'Christians'!

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks , M. Jw, for answer.

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So , what is that you want to believe ?

Thanks in advance , r.v.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ONLY truth! The most elusive thing in the world!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the Mad JW wrote:
ONLY truth! The most elusive thing in the world!


As you stated , many believe only what they want to believe , and that , they call it "truth".

So , what do you call "truth" ?

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

forgive me for butting in.

Here we are three different christians; one is active in WTS, one is ex-WTS and I don't agree with either of you.

Rus is fighting against mainly WTS, I believe all organized churches are evil (most trinitarians both Catholics and protestants and WTS).

Dadadadannnnnnnnnnnnnnn.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

joyful wrote:

Dadadadannnnnnnnnnnnnnn.

>_>

(I don't know about y'all, but that last post was hilarious. ;P)

*laughs* So, JW advocates worship "in truth", while all of us are here, discussing what exactly "the truth" is. Therefore, all of us who do not belong to the WTS can't possibly be worshipping right.
Just a thought and some simple logic. Cool

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:30 pm    Post subject: yoohoo, Rus and Mike! Reply with quote

Where are you???? Explain yourselves!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



That WAS hilarious!
I do NOT "defend the WTBS". I defend what I know as biblical truth!
Here's one: When you die, you........DIE! (Gasp!) You STOP LIVING! There is no 'Immortal Soul' floating to heaven, hellfire, Purgatory, limbo, Nirvana, or reincarnation!

This was made clear by Christ who said there would be a Day when the Dead would be Ressurected & Judged (Revelation says the same thing).

Now if your faith is placed in Mo hammed, Joeseph Smith, Popes or Pastors- you will passionately disagree!

Agape/Peace/Shalom!

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the Mad JW wrote:

I do NOT "defend the WTBS". I defend what I know as biblical truth!
Here's one: When you die, you........DIE! (Gasp!) You STOP LIVING! There is no 'Immortal Soul' floating to heaven, hellfire, Purgatory, limbo, Nirvana, or reincarnation!

but Jesus gives us the offer of life after death if we follow Him, you agree with that right?

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This was made clear by Christ who said there would be a Day when the Dead would be Ressurected & Judged (Revelation says the same thing).
yes, it is just confusing with your last statement saying dead is dead. God still gives us hope after death.

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Now if your faith is placed in Mo hammed, Joeseph Smith, Popes or Pastors- you will passionately disagree!

Agape/Peace/Shalom![/b]


if people are putting their faith in men, they need to be encouraged to read the Bible more, especially New Testament. That is where I learned we need to be extra careful of all religious leaders, Jesus keeps repeating that warning, which was a surprise to me when I started reading the Bible 6 years ago. The best view of christianity is Bible reading/study, which is very lacking among many professing christians.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

theMadJW, were you trying to take a shot at our title up here, that says "YHWH is great, Jesus is worthy, Sharing Truth?" because that what it seemed like to me. that title came from the idea of Jesus being asked, "what is truth?" and Jesus says "I am the way, the truth," are you suggesting we change it?

my observation is we can't just throw out bible verses without a real explanation about what it has to do with anything.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ad-minister wrote:
the Mad JW wrote:

When you die, you........DIE! (Gasp!) You STOP LIVING! There is no 'Immortal Soul' floating to heaven, hellfire, Purgatory, limbo, Nirvana, or reincarnation!

but Jesus gives us the offer of life after death if we follow Him, you agree with that right?

Mad: Yes & No; he did offer life- yet said the resurrection would take place in the FUTURE, at an appointed time!

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This was made clear by Christ who said there would be a Day when the Dead would be Ressurected & Judged (Revelation says the same thing).


if people are putting their faith in men, they need to be encouraged to read the Bible more, especially New Testament. That is where I learned we need to be extra careful of all religious leaders, Jesus keeps repeating that warning, which was a surprise to me when I started reading the Bible 6 years ago. The best view of christianity is Bible reading/study, which is very lacking among many professing christians.


Mad:I completely agree with you on THAT! However, one CAN'T really understand the 'New' Testament without reading the 'Old' Testament. I HATE those false titles applied to Bible Books; it diminishes the Hebrew Canon!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mad:I completely agree with you on THAT! However, one CAN'T really understand the 'New' Testament without reading the 'Old' Testament. I HATE those false titles applied to Bible Books; it diminishes the Hebrew Canon!


New Testament is so easy to understand God's purpose and our mission for the Lord. Jesus did perfect job for His followers to understand YHWH and Jesus in the New Testament. New Testament is milk part for His followers and Old Testament is the meat part, IMHO.

Sad thing is that most Christians are not even passing the milk part and putting so much time trying to understand the Old Testament. It is no wonder how chaotic the christian community is.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BTW, Mike,

Your avater is so scary picture. Confused Who is that man?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Now if your faith is placed in Mo hammed, Joeseph Smith, Popes or Pastors- you will passionately disagree


hi mike,

But JWs faith is place in the "annointed ones". They make all decisions for you lay people. You guys have no personal walk with Jesus.

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